By DemocracyRules
h/t Essence.com
Dr. Alan Keyes, a former US ambassador, ran for President for the American Independent Party. In November, Keyes filed a lawsuit against Obama, the California secretary of state, and others, to stop California from giving its electoral votes to Obama until a birth certificate is produced proving that he is indeed a natural born citizen.
ALAN KEYES: "I had read a little bit about the issues that were being raised about Obama back during the primary season. At first I thought, like a lot of people, "There's nothing to this. It's just a matter of fact. You can establish what the facts are." The Constitution specifies that a citizen who is naturalized, rather than born into the status of being an American citizen, cannot be president. That was done in the beginning because people feared a foreign takeover of the United States government by the process of immigration. Staid as it is, we again are in a situation where a lot of foreign entities have influence or control over U.S. policy.
The reason an issue has been raised about Obama is because of the simple question, which can be answered with a birth certificate that shows he was born in the United States, or born to parents who had the capacity to transmit U.S. citizenship. When the question was asked, he danced around it. If the most important office of the federal government can be occupied by someone who is not qualified under the United States Constitution, that destroys the authority of the Constitution. I think it's something that needs to be dealt with in a clear, straightforward way. Eventually the case will get to the Supreme Court, establish the facts, and clear the air. It's really all very simple.
A lot of questions have been raised [about birth certificates posted on websites]. It has to be established by a matter of fact, not by some Web site. The state of Hawaii needs to share the birth certificate with the Supreme Court, so they can take a look at it. When I went into the government as part of the United States foreign service, you had to submit an original copy of your birth certificate. People have been dancing around Obama's certification instead of going straight to the answer.
Part of the problem is, at the time he was born, the state of Hawaii was issuing certificates of live birth. That's what he has on the Web site. They would issue that certificate verifying you were born, but not necessarily in the United States. And there is question that, at the time that he was born, his mother was not yet of age to transmit citizenship. You had to be 19, I think. If he was born in Hawaii, then he is a natural born citizen. If he was born somewhere else-and a question has been raised if his birth was in Kenya-then his mother would not have transmitted citizenship. One needs to verify that the certificate verifies the birthplace.
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This is not something that should be taken on hearsay. This is the most important office. Everything should be done without controversy, in such a way that the Constitutional requirements are met. If something is contrary to the Constitutional requirement, then you have to do away with that. It's not on Obama to do this. The folks with whom this burden presently rests are the officials who are now responsible for the process, who sit on the Supreme Court and other areas. They have to abide by their oaths to preserve and defend the Constitution, and not have him entering into office with a question they refuse to resolve.
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The problem in this case is, Obama was not properly vetted-by the media, or other individuals-during the campaign. They refused to look at it. People went to the polls with the issue unresolved. Once the electoral process is done, then the responsibility for certifying the results and making sure it's all according to the Constitution rests on the officials. So we're at a different stage of the process. I don't believe it would be a good idea to turn to the government to establish the qualifications of people who are running for office. That could be abused to limit the options of the people. If people are behaving with integrity, these facts would come out and then people would be able to make their judgment. This didn't happen.
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I think politics is irrelevant to this, actually. I don't see how it is showing fondness for Barack Obama to let him enter into office with a question that could be raised. He should not have to operate under that burden. I think the officials need to clear the air for his sake. From my point of view, it is a bad idea to have a president of the United States enter office with a cloud hanging over his head, where every time he tries to do something, he would end up frittering away time because of that objection. So let's get it over with. Let's resolve it and move forward with a clear an undisturbed mandate for the new president.
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It makes a difference to the Constitution. The Constitution has to be obeyed. If we get into a position where it is somehow regarded as dispensable then this country will fall apart. Black people should be the first folks to remember that. Without adherence to the Constitution our battles would have never been won. I don't want to live in a country where we are suddenly back in a world where the force of majority rules. I don't think any of us do.
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Today we are in more danger as a people of being subverted by foreign powers than we were when it was founded. It is possible, under our present rules in America, for folks from another country to come visit America, to have a child here, to take that child back to wherever, raise that child there, and that child would be an American citizen. Do we really think it would be right to have a person who has not lived in America, does not identify with our people, to run here as president of the United States?
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Rules have to be written in general. You can't write a rule in every particular case. The rules established in the Constitution are general rules that have been abided by people throughout the history of this country. People have been excluded from running for president, people like Arnold Schwarzenegger. One has to think of the common good. This isn't a question of individuals anymore. The key thing about the presidency, in my opinion, is that the person above all takes responsibility for the common good of the country. Our public officials do not swear allegiance to a country; they swear an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. That's something to be taken very seriously. Those are the rules."
On Dec 5 the Supreme Court will either allow or disallow the usurpation of both the Constitution and the Government of the United States — easily the most pivotal decision since our nation’s founding — and the silence of the news media is deafening (if not downright scary).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH7rSHcvgU
Posted by: Ted | November 30, 2008 at 01:59 AM
The birth certificate actually doesn't matter, except as additional proofshowing his place of birth and his parents names.
Obama is NOT a "natural born citizen" due to his already stated dual citizenship at birth. Only natural born citizens may become president, due to the issue of divided loyalties from birth, and Obama clearly does not qualify.
The Supreme Court and the Electoral College have GOT to uphold our U.S. Constitution, as they have sworn to do. Otherwise, if Obama is allowed to assume the presidency without being lawfully eligible, every law, every decision, every treaty, every single action will be questioned. Plus, wouldn't every military officer that follows any order then be at risk for prosecution for following an ineligible Commander in Chief?
This is an ensuing constitutional nightmare.
Here are two links for more information:
http://tinyurl.com/5pl9lm
http://tinyurl.com/5w5ov6
Posted by: rrobin | November 30, 2008 at 09:56 AM
I pray you are successful Mr Keys. There seems to be 1 set of rules for President Elect Obama and another set of rules for the rest of the world. I can not get over this love affair that the Media and the rest of the world has with Obama.
It is really sad. I keep hoping that I will wake up and it would have all just been a bad dream. It is very much like Jim Jones and a bunch of "Kool-aid" drinkers.
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{From DR -- Thank you for your comment.
Things seem a bit scary right now, but Keyes isn't giving up, and I respect his determination and spirit. America looks like it's headed for the ditch right now, but I'm certain that self-correcting forces are already at work. Americans have a way of getting out of serious jams.
As for the apparent doodle-heads who voted for this guy, I bear them no malice. They just made a mistake, that's all. And it's hard to blame them. In my mind, the idea if an intelligent, charismatic and determined black President is a neat idea.
I'm not particularly pro-affirmative action or anything like that. It just seems like a neat idea. And that's what Americans voted for, a neat idea.
They like neat ideas.
But we still have to try to remove Obama from power, or at least limit the damage he does. Underneath it all, Obama is not a neat idea.
--Pro Patria}
Posted by: Judith Chapple | December 01, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Dear Dr Keyes
We wish to applaud you for your latest interview regarding Obama. He certainly is a communist as well as a baby killer.
Neither of us will desecrate the office of the Presidency by calling him our president.
We feel you are the right person to organize a U.S. protest on the lawn of the capital. Is this something you would consider?
We continue to support and pray for you.
Sincerely,
Tyrus and Mary Krigbaum
Posted by: Tyrus and Mary Krigbaum | March 12, 2009 at 06:47 PM
From winnybar:
Obama Birth Announcement Forged
http://home.att.net/~south.tower/ForgedObama1.htm
Hawaii officials used the presence of a birth certificate different from the August 4, 1961 BC that doesn't exist to intimate that it does. The unknown birth certificate has the real mother and maybe the real father. Frank Marshall Davis was the real 'Obama' father who probably didn't sign. The Mother, a white woman, had to sign. Her nationality would be on it. In an out of wedlock birth the mother determines nationality and citizenship. As 'Obama' is older than he claims he probably was if in Hawaii before statehood in 1959. He would be unnatural born on that score alone.
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From DR -- Dear Winnybar:
Please be careful with this! The website you refer to contains factual errors. It also mixes speculation, invective, and false accusations in with the facts.
It does not conclusively prove Obama's birth announcements were forged.
Combining fact with fiction only serves to obscure the truth. Only the rigorous persuit of the truth will win this fight.
Obama's people can and will devote huge resources to discrediting his critics. They now have billions to spend on destroying the opposition. If our arguments are even slightly flawed or exaggerated, Obama will use that to discredit the entire movement against him.
Please be patient, and be careful. Stick to the facts, and focus only on this things you are very sure about. Keep track of your links to source material, and cite them often.
More damaging facts will come to light about Obama. We know this because Obama has obscured a huge amount about his past, and as researchers dig, they will find more and more falsehoods.
Please see my upcoming posting about this.
Pro Patria
Posted by: winnybar | April 13, 2009 at 09:23 PM