Sarah Palin vs. The Heckler

Governor Sarah Palin ran into a heckler on the campaign trail in Florida today.

Guess who won?

Yeah.  It went about as well for the heckler as it did for the moose.

Via Gateway Pundit:  "WOW!... Best. Comeback. Ever. --Palin Leaves Crazed Protester Speechless!! Crowd Goes Nuts!!"

Comments

[anomynous]

I don't understand. She has someone she loves fighting for our right to protest (admittingly an honorable job) so that guy has to shutup, it doesn't make sense.

[yes but truthfully]

So fighting in Iraq has something to do with protesting rights? Please...

[Proud to be an American]

Look at the big picture yes but truthfully.

[Jimmie]

Look, Gina, you have trolls!

[Valerie]

You go Palin!!!! Our boys and girls are fighting for our safety and security...if we don't fight them on their land they will just come back to our land and take down more of our homeland. So go on and heckle her...it's your right...and it's her right to remind you of why you have that right.

[Gina Cobb]

"Look, Gina, you have trolls!"

I know, Jimmie. We are rather fond of some of our trolls. As long as they follow our 2,342 rules designed to ensure semi-polite, semi-rational debate, we get along fine.

Thanks for dropping by, Jimmie. I'll have to check out your site again soon. Folks, visit The Sundries Shack once in a while. It's chock-full of interesting stuff.

[yes but truthfully]

Valarie,

very good point.

I guess then you also support Russia 100% - otherwise you would be a little hypocritical...

After Georgia started the recent war, Russia sent in troops to protect it's safety and security and the homeland of Russia...

But I seriously think the US needs to start a war with North Korea - because they are much closer to getting nukes, if they don't have them already. North Korea also has a crazy dictator like Saddam, who would have no problem attacking the US.

But I forget - North Korea is poor and has no oil...

When you talk about safety and security, do you actually mean the safety and security of the US'S energy needs, ie. blood oil from Iraq?

I just hope that in the future the US can let other countries know when it plans to invade and occupy them - so that the innocent people can get out.

That way the US can go in and take whatever they want without destroying the country and killing over a million people, as they've done in Iraq.

[Valerie]

to yes but truthfully, are you serious? So you think the USA is a horrible brutal dictatorship that bullies and suppresses all the other countries in the world for our own selfish reasons...if fact if we go by your premise of starting wars so we can take over their oil and resources then why in the HECK do we pay so much for oil???

We are the kindest most generous country in the world. We give and the world takes. North Korea they took millions from us...agreed to take down their nuclear facilities and then they take the money from us and reactivate their nuclear power plants. .... Other countries are just sucklings off of our hard work...we send MILLIONS around the world and we are still hated...but yet we are the first and only country immigrants strive to come to....

So you can go on and think we are just and evil country right alone with Obama and his friends Wright and Ayers .... go and join them ....

Listening to the debate...i am even more angry ... never in the history of the world have the POOR CREATED JOBS OR ANYTHING...LOOK AROUND THE WORLD....When Obama says we GIVE the big oil companies millions in tax breaks....LOL we don't GIVE THEM anything ...the fricking earned that money and with less taxes more drilling and platforms can be built...if i pay less taxes i can buy more things....but to say that someone makes too much money is WRONG IS a communistic point of view. Do you know how many MILLIONS IT COST an oil company to drill for oil? DO you know their workers make huge bucks....if we do more drilling and clean coal...it will create a lot of great paying jobs....so why do the liberal left hate companies that take risks and turn around a great profit...it's not like the banking industry that stole this money by putting our banking industries on the prospects that the POOR WOULD PAY BACK A LOAN....we all need to sit back and re-evaluate what the USA stands for and quit hating those with money...because they are the ones who employee and create jobs and prosperity in this country NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. With McCains health care there would be opportunities for those who want to open a insurance company .... which would employ more workers ...we have to stop looking at our federal government as the milk cow...and start using the resources of this country to create things for ourselves.

If Obama was such a great leader why did he receive millions to help Chicago schools...for 7 years and they are still failing? hmmm if you read...you will find he gave the millions to community organizer groups headed by ayers and ayers wife...and wright....it didn't go to real schools...it just corruption .... plain and simple.

[yes but truthfully]

So you did not mention Russia. You agree then?

Try answering this question. Iraq was no threat to the US and did not plan or cause 911. The US illegally invaded Iraq apparently for WMD. Many other countries in the world have and had more developed WMD. Why did the US not invade them, e.g. North Korea?

Please tell me why? Since the reason given for invading Iraq was for WMD...

Anyway - since when did the rules change? I always understood that the country that invades another is the evil one. Remember Germany and WW2 ? Can't anyone in the US see how hypocritical that is?

[Gina Cobb Comments: Yes but: The United States did not only invade Iraq because it had had used chemical weapons in the past, still had some of those chemical weapons, and was developing nuclear weapons (all of which was later proven true). There were additional reasons why the U.S. went into Iraq -- which you have ignored. There was Iraq's refusal to allow inspections to verify compliance. There was its defiance of U.N. resolutions. There was its torture and murder of its own people. There was its sponsoring of terrorism. When you start from a false premise, the rest of your conclusions will also be wrong.]

[Gina Cobb]

Valerie -- great points. Thanks for commenting!

[Chris]

I wonder how Gov. Palin and the crowd would have reacted if the man had been a gold-star parent and had replied to her, "Well ma'm, my son/daughter died in Iraq."

[Gina Cobb]

"I wonder how Gov. Palin and the crowd would have reacted if the man had been a gold-star parent and had replied to her, "Well ma'm, my son/daughter died in Iraq." "

You apparently forget that President Bush has met personally with the family of each fallen soldier that requested to do so. Conservatives who support the war realize full well that not every soldier will return, and mourn every loss of life. Conservatives also realize that far more innocent civilians will die if terrorism is not fought now -- and fought to victory.

Iraq, before the war, openly paid homicide bombers to kill innocent civilians. It paid $25,000 to the family of each homicide bomber. There is no question that Iraq was a terrorism-sponsoring state that tortured its own people. Why you want to rush to its defense by attacking the U.S. for daring to depose the dictator is beyond me.

[Gawfer]

YBT,

What has been explained ad nauseam and continually ignored by you and your fellow yellows is there was NEVER a peace accord with Saddam Hussein; merely a cease fire after Desert Storm. You do remember don't you; the war that occurred when he invaded Kuwait?

Allow me to refresh your memory: a no fly zone was established over North and South Iraq that was agreed to by SH but continually violated. There were numerous Iraqi engagements of coalition air patrols during the 10 years of cease fire as well as genocide of the Iraqi Kurds.

The world should have evicted SH in the mid 90's when his provocative and deadly behavior was thriving, but too many nations were worried about public opinion in spite of the scores of deaths that occurred. If the US is guilty of anything, it is sitting on our hands while so many (180,000) innocent people were slaughtered in the name of ethnic cleansing. Perhaps you'll remember this:
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/8/111601.shtml

I get all warm and fuzzy thinking that you are arguing on behalf of all the Iraqi people who died when coalition forces took Iraq; it's a shame however that you ignore those who were killed by their own trusted leader for being the wrong race or religion. Your ‘holier than though’ attitude grows tiresome.

[Chris]

"You apparently forget that President Bush has met personally with the family of each fallen soldier that requested to do so. Conservatives who support the war realize full well that not every soldier will return, and mourn every loss of life. Conservatives also realize that far more innocent civilians will die if terrorism is not fought now -- and fought to victory.

Iraq, before the war, openly paid homicide bombers to kill innocent civilians. It paid $25,000 to the family of each homicide bomber. There is no question that Iraq was a terrorism-sponsoring state that tortured its own people. Why you want to rush to its defense by attacking the U.S. for daring to depose the dictator is beyond me."

Gina:
And you apparently replied to something other than my post, as it doesn't address anything that I said.
My post asked, "I wonder how Gov. Palin and the crowd would have reacted if the man had been a gold-star parent and had replied to her, "Well ma'm, my son/daughter died in Iraq."

Everyone is congratulating Gov. Palin on her quick wit in dealing with this heckler, but I can see a very-real situation where her choice of words could have proven embarrassing, but this is just my personal opinion. She used the "patriotism card" (for want of a better term) in bringing up her son serving in Iraq. She did this knowing nothing about this guy, and my point is that he could have had a "patriotism card" to play himself which would have trumped hers had he been given a chance to respond. As I said, suppose he would have replied, "Well, my son died there [in Iraq]." or "Well, my son sits in Walter Reed Army Medical Center with no legs." or perhaps, "I appreciate your son's service, Governor Palin, as he is now carrying the burden that I did for a year in Vietnam. Hopefully, he won't be coming home with shrapnel in his body like me."

It would have been interesting to see how the crowd and the Governor would have reacted.

[Gawfer]

"...She used the "patriotism card" (for want of a better term) in bringing up her son serving in Iraq. She did this knowing nothing about this guy,"

Hold up Chris.
Unless you were there, you have absolutely NO idea what the heckler said, while she very clearly heard him, and addressed him directly. I have no question that she used great prudence in selecting her words; else she wouldn't be where she is. Besides; in general, women are much more judicial with their words than men are.

[yes but truthfully]

yes Gawfer - I'd have to agree that women are, especially in your case! I'll refrain from saying anything else!

The US is in MASSIVE financial debt.
The markets are in melt down.
The US is overstretched militarily.

As such, I just hope that when the world rights itself after this current turmoil, which will take years, that the US will be much weaker financially.

It will then have to drop it's 'Bully on the block' attitude and start listening to humanity in other parts of the world - since they also have a right to exist and to their national borders.

[Gawfer]

"...yes Gawfer - I'd have to agree that women are, especially in your case! I'll refrain from saying anything else!"

What's the matter? This comment bother you???

"...I get all warm and fuzzy thinking that you are arguing on behalf of all the Iraqi people who died when coalition forces took Iraq; it's a shame however that you ignore those who were killed by their own trusted leader for being the wrong race or religion. Your ‘holier than though’ attitude grows tiresome."

[yes but truthfully]

have a nice weekend Gawfer.

[Gawfer]

You too, YBT

[TREVOR]

Correct me if I am wrong, but we had free speech before we went to war right? And Iraq was not doing anything to prevent our free speech right? So are we officially adding the right to free speech as another reason we went into iraq?

[Gawfer]

Brilliant analysis, Trevor.

Clearly, Junior High favors you. Here's an advanced word for you to ponder:

Non-Sequitur. Look it up for extra credit.

[yes but truthfully]

Hold up Gawfer, stop attacking people on this site all the time.

[Gawfer]

YTB:
"Hold up Gawfer, stop attacking people on this site all the time."

Gee, YTB, are you now the internet police? I was merely offering the Lad a compliment.

BTW, pointing out the silly, erroneous and tiresome arguments of the left that can be so easily disassembled, shouldn’t be construed as attacking someone. For instance, when I pointed out that you in particular fail to consider the many innocent Iraqis that were executed at the hands of a tyrannical leader while criticizing the United States and coalition forces who freed them from an oppressive evil is, I was only revealing an obvious deficit in your logic.

Let me ask you a question. In YTB’s perfect world, what role would you have the United States fill? in other words;

What battles would you have us fight on your behalf?
Military Aid

What wealth and riches would you have us share with you and other countries?

US Foreign Aid

U.S. Foreign Aid Recipients by Area $ Received/ by Year - Where the money goes - by Region
2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001
Near East 5,878 5,343 5,556 5,467 5,312 5,401
Africa 2,803 2,444 2,091 1,561 1,460 1,313
Southern Asia 1,889 1,772 2,484 637 307 204
Western Hemisphere 1,585 1,713 1,662 1,545 1,333 749
Europe & Eur-asia 1,266 1,401 1,577 1,776 1,877 2,017
East Asia/ Pacific 489 523 474 484 494 442
Other 8,918 6,517 5,767 4,666 4,569 4,855
Totals: 22,828 19,713 19,611 16,136 15,352 14,981

You are vicious with your verbal assaults against the United States, while taking for granted what we do globally every day on behalf of those who can not respond. I for one take that quite personally, and will continue to respond to you as long as I have eyes to read and fingers to type.

I tried to add hypertext and charted information, but am not responsible for what type pad does with it.

[Gawfer]

First link:

Foreign Military Aid

[Gawfer]

second Link

US Foreign Aid

[yes but truthfull]

Hi G.

you know that my world is really not perfect. However, at this point in time it is as perfect as it can be given the circumstances. At this stage in my life I feel that I have come a long way. Isn't it strange that the more we grow as adults we seem to become more in touch with our child within?

My perfect world would be very different from what we have now. If I had the power of God I would return mankind to the reason he was put on this planet - to learn to love and learn to give. Currently the people on this planet run after money, share prices, greed, power, etc, etc - as described in the bible.

The worst thing of all is that we are absolutely infatuated with killing each other and creating machines and mechanisms to wipe ourselves off this planet.
Since God is all powerfull I'd wipe all weapons from the planet and anyone that got aggressive would get toilet cleaning duty.

The links you supplied are interesting, especially (and I quote):
"Foreign Aid Purpose: To create foreign markets for US products, esp. arms sales.
Foreign aid aids the giver, not the recipient.
Corruption is a major problem - many funds end up in private bank accounts.
The leaders get the money, not the people.
Richer nations receive the most."

I'd really like to make my point here:-
The fact that Saddam was a dictator killing so many of his people is NOT an excuse for invasion. Iraq was a sovreign country.
If the US had such high morals then why haven't they cleaned Mugabe and his henchment out of Zimbabwe? He's arguably responsible for far more deaths than Saddam. There are many other dictators in this world that have killed as much if not more than Saddam...

You see - if the US wasn't stomping it's big feet all over different parts of the world people woulden't be getting so upset. Should everyone just accept it without comment??? Nope sorry.

I think that if you consider my views as 'deficit in logic', then you need to look reality 'straight in the face'.

Have a nice week.

[Gawfer]

Great comment, YTB.

Thanks for the thoughtful response.

You’re right; there are many dictators that need to be dealt with; perhaps one day, we'll get to them.

"...Currently the people on this planet run after money, share prices, greed, power, etc, etc - as described in the bible..."

Let me point out that though you are basically correct in this statement, what has been overlooked is that these 'characteristics' are not the problem, but a symptom of a greater problem; Sin.

They are the outward expression of an inward deficit known as selfishness and pride that each one of us deals with on a daily basis.

The United States is the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the world. We are also the most benevolent nation in the world. In spite of that, we still wrestle with the same issues as other free nations. Sometimes our leaders are motivated by wholesome ideas and principles; sometimes not.

We understand that as long as sin exists in the world, there will be bad guys who see life as a mere commodity that is expendable.

You mentioned Mugabe but neglected to mention China or the Sudan. Bad stuff (human rights violations) is going on there as well. Saddam Hussein posed a significant threat to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Iran. Two of those Countries are considered friends of the US. I will tell you for sure that when Bad guys like Mugabe and Hussein expand their rein of terror to threaten our friends, which moves them up on the priority list.

The point I'm now making is we as the United States have an obligation to our friends and to ourselves to help those who are in need in spite of the threat of corruption. There will always be that potential, but that doesn't absolve us from the responsibility of acting.